Covid 19 - a message to the people of Hull

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To the lovely lovely people of Hull,

I am so sad for the impact the current situation is having on everyone's lives at the moment, your children and your grandchildren, mums and dads and everyone else.

I feel it my duty to alert people, especially so my fellow citizens of Hull and East Riding , of the dangers I currently see confronting us all. The virus situation, the closed businesses ( by Government Decree), The economic collapse going on all around us, the schooling and loss of education for your children, grandchildren and so on and so on.

About me:-

I am just a normal guy , like you all, getting on in years now, but I started getting suspicious about this Covid 19 around September .

I have been on this site a good number of years now.

Before September I accepted the official narrative and diligently reported our health status every day on the Covid Sympton Study App, like a good citizen. I was happy to see the numbers falling in the summer, the pubs re-opening, and life returning a little to normal.

But come September when the number of cases started to go up I started to get the feeling that something didn’t seem right. And I started doing some research away from what we are fed by mainstream media.

My findings truly scare me and I hope the good ending I have seen predicted comes about but if it doesn’t, and there is no guarantee, then at some point soon we are all going to have to wake up and take matters into our own hands to protect our loved ones and our livelihoods.


Mainstream Media and the Vaccines


I want to pose this one question. And if you can consider this one question with a truly open mind then everything else falls into place.

Can you Trust what Mainstream Media are telling you, about anything.

If you lived in Russia or China you would have no difficulty answering that question. You would just know that the media was purely a propaganda machine. Designed to brainwash you with what the government wanted you to hear.
In our case, be scared of the invisible virus, take the vaccine, take the vaccine, its good for you. No mention the vaccines are all exempted from liability for any damage they may inflict on people. And good luck proving it was the vaccine.

The 1% Elites Controlling the World

You have all heard in your life about the 1% of the elites who control and own 50% of the world’s resources. Leaving the 99% of the rest to have the other 50%.

This 1% only comprise of a dozen to twenty or so families. With 50% of the worlds wealth. And between them they control everything, and I mean everything.

They control the Banking, Central Banks , World Health Organisation, Big Pharma, Big Oil, The Federal Reserve.

Importantly for them they control the Media. And they heavily influence Government Policies with their bribes, and blackmail. Remember, Google knows everything about you. They know we use this site. And Porn sites. And the politicians that are into all the things that we deplore, paedophilia or worse, Google knows that too.

So don’t dismiss blackmail of politicians as not being totally believable.

Many of you will know Twitter, Facebook, and others have totally banished free speech from their platforms in the USA. The President of the USA banned from speaking about a rigged election.

And people moved to Parler, and Telegram. So Apple and Google (Android) have removed Parler and Telegram off their App stores. Worse they have send downloads via auto updates to disable Parler or Telegarm fom your devices if you already had it on you mobile phone.

And Amazon wont let you access Parler directly by keying in the URL. You see they are all working together. Control the media, control the narrative.

Free speech in action????. So now we are solely dependent on the propaganda of the mainstream media.

The Virus

One very important point to make here.

I am in No Way suggesting the virus does not exist. It obviously does. We have a friend spend 10 days on a ventilator In April, and know a family where 5 members of the combined 2 families caught the virus from each other.

But the pandemic was last spring. It is clearly still around but IMPORTANTLY it is not causing and EXCESS mortality.
As the new virus on the block it is the DOMINANT virus this season. Because as a community we have less Herd Immunity than to other viruses.

So if your number was up this year, the Covid will likely take you as opposed to the Flu. You would have died of Flu, or something else we are familiar with, but this time Covid got you.

But if you are dead, are you personally bothered what they put on your death certificate.?? I wanted to go with the Flu , but Covid got me first.

And this is what is happening. Covid deaths are ‘replacement’ deaths. NOT excess deaths. Covid is the dominant virus this year. But these poor unfortunate people were scheduled to go anyway. Their time was simply up.

And that is what is showing in the figures as explained below:-

My early investigations lead me to find Ivor Cummins .

Check him out via search for ‘Ivor Cummins Youtube Channel’

Check out some of his Viral Issue videos.

Ivor is an expert Data Analyst. So he analyses the data , and backs up with proven Scientific Studies.

There is massive evidence, Lockdowns have no impact on cases, or the direction of the curve. If it is going up its keeps on going up along exactly the same trajectory.
Same if it is going down. Same trajectory. Lockdowns or unlocking does not alter the curve.

And more than 20 Scientific studies prove it, conclusively. Including the BMJ and even the WHO have said Lockdowns don’t work.

There is no way our Government don’t know this so what is going on?


And Ivor Cummins lead me to find a Euoropean Union website, gold standard, where countries send in their ‘all cause’ mortality stats, week by week. Euromomo.eu

You can check it out for yourself. But be aware there are choices for viewing the figures on the website. Those choices are ‘cumulative’ or ‘weekly’ .

The default is ‘cumulative, and you need set it to show ‘weekly’. Cumulative will show the actual pandemic last spring in the totals . But if you set to ‘weekly’ you will see the mountain of deaths last March, April and May. But since then the weekly number of total deaths have been within the bounds of seasonal norms. Less that 2018 I believe.

The site has 5 years worth of data, and you can see in one 5 year timeline that except for the 3 months mentioned, ‘all cause mortality’ is normal. Just the same as every other year.

So what the hell is going on, and why are they wrecking our economies , our children's lives and futures, and the world as we know it.

People have to wake up, and wake up fast now as soon it may be too late.

What can we do? Some ideas, more welcomed.

1) This is my best idea.
We need the police on our side. The police are in the same situation as ourselves, with wives, families, parents all impacted by these lockdowns

And they are as brainwashed as we are by the media and totally believe this lie.

If the police can be asked to pass the info onto to their colleagues perhaps they will come to realise they are being used in this game. Much like the police in France moved over to the side of the Yellow vests. And the 1% don't like you to hear this so the media don't report it that way.

Nor do they report the Lockdown protests in London.

So my suggestion is, if you know any policemen , and I’m sure many of you do, then show them euromomo.eu , try to gently explain we are all being lied to, and that by enforcing lockdowns and freedom of movement they are actually being complicit in what is happening.

2) Second idea is the obvious. To join in peacefully any lockdown demonstrations that are going on, or even organise them. I am now past Government retirement age but would be happy to take part.

A few last thoughts and some resources

My research has lead me to the real reason for the lockdowns and destroy the economies. But I am not posting it here.

I’m very hopeful this nightmare will end real soon. With a world event the likes of which you will be privileged to watch, and will turn your view of the world upside down. And much better times beyond.

But it might not happen so we need to start waking up and look after ourselves and fellow citizens.

I want to post a couple more resources . The first a website run by Robert Kennedy, highlighting problems and damage caused by Big Pharma, be it Monsanto to vaccine damage.

The second is a video by a Dutch lady investigative journalist. It was made in English but aimed at a Dutch Audience. And it was made in April. So no way current. But it gives a great feel for what was going on in the real pandemic last spring.

I MUST warn that some of the scenes from Wuhan in the opening 10 minutes are extremely disturbing, very harrowing. It wasn’t Covid that caused this as they explain , it was something else they released , but nonetheless to a western audience, we cannot comprehend this stuff. So some people may not want to watch this Documentary, or perhaps skip the first 10 minutes, and watch the rest.

I don’t wish to alarm anyone unduly, my total wish is just to wake people from their slumbers before it is too late.


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/death-by-coincidence/

Covid 19 Documentary link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANA2GU8TdKo&feature=share
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Don't think you can say the pandemic was last spring. Surely it is still a pandemic.
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Just because your twitter and Facebook accounts have been closed, you decide to reincarnate yourself as member of this forum
Shame on you Mr . Trump.
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I love a good conspiracy theory 🙄
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If you had done an ounce of independent research on virology or epidemiology, you would know damn well every last word of that is a stupid conspiracy and exactly what has pushed this viruses numbers sky high!
The amount of people protesting masks, protesting a lockdown, but stood on their doorsteps clapping the NHS on a Thursday, are now the ones causing the HUGE strain on hospitals now!
Get a grip, speak to any number of virologist or epidemiologist on twitter or Instagram (and I mean real ones, nit the ones claiming they are with zero formal education), maybe get some actual facts from them instead of pushing a conspiracy that was born from Donald bloody trump!
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My research has lead me to the real reasons for the lockdown and destroy the economies but I'm not posting it here, why not, you've just bored us with the rest of the crap why not inform us of that reason too,
As for the apps that Google (android) have banned from the app store, I have an old Samsung s4 and I can get both on here so more crap from you
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Wellllll at least Boris can blame the virus instead of brexit for the shite ...
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Is there a mod who can delete this pile of uninformed shite .

I'd debate it point by point, ask for evidence of claims and disprove them through peer reviewed research, but a year into it, it just feels like screaming into the wind.
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pipwillow wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:18 pm Is there a mod who can delete this pile of uninformed shite .

I'd debate it point by point, ask for evidence of claims and disprove them through peer reviewed research, but a year into it, it just feels like screaming into the wind.
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Wraith wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:55 pm
pipwillow wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:18 pm Is there a mod who can delete this pile of uninformed shite .

I'd debate it point by point, ask for evidence of claims and disprove them through peer reviewed research, but a year into it, it just feels like screaming into the wind.
What and create an echo chamber?
Yes he's entitled to his opinion, even if it is b*ll*cks. Personally I wouldn't debate with him. Nothing anyone can say will change his mind. Let him rant away by himself.
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tasher wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:24 pm
Wraith wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:55 pm
pipwillow wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:18 pm Is there a mod who can delete this pile of uninformed shite .

I'd debate it point by point, ask for evidence of claims and disprove them through peer reviewed research, but a year into it, it just feels like screaming into the wind.
What and create an echo chamber?
Yes he's entitled to his opinion, even if it is b*ll*cks. Personally I wouldn't debate with him. Nothing anyone can say will change his mind. Let him rant away by himself.
Entitled to his opinion yes but perhaps this isn't the best place to try and convert others to the same view. I see he hasn't been on here since starting the thread.
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It was not unexpected that I would receive lots of flack for my post. When people are bombarded 24/7 with a narrative, with no alternative viewpoints debated, when someone offers an alternative narrative they are obviously going to be the subject of derision.
Some people on this forum will know instinctively that something is not quite right about the mainstream virus narrative.
A virus with a survival rate of around 99.7% I believe. For under 50’s , a bigger chance of getting run over and killed than dying from the virus. And yet we must shutdown everything. Destroy the economy, destroy jobs, education, all normal life. It really doesn’t take a genius to see that this does not add up.
I really came back online to say a huge thanks to Wraith for allowing freedom of speech. I take my hat off to him, proving to be a bigger and better man than both Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey. I don’t know Wraith but suspect he is a similar age to myself, born of an age when free speech was taken for granted.

The virus itself will soon be gone. For those who understand all the faults with the PCR tests and the false positives, you will have seen that just 1 hour after Bidens Inaugeration the WHO announced the number of cycles of amplification was unreliable and advised dropping from 35 to 20 I believe.
With the enormous reduction in false positives this will bring about , plus the onset of spring, the virus will mysteriously disappear.
Some US States are already opening right up, restaurants, bars etc.
BUT , they have achieved their objective which is to bring about a Financial reset. The Western world is effectively bankrupt and the current system cannot continue. In history apparently it happens approximately every 50 years.
Why am I posting on this forum. Because it is affecting everyone’s lives and livelihoods. The ladies are particularly hard hit in that they are unable to work and earn a living. And peoples mental health is being destroyed. What they are doing is a Crime Against Humanity and I truly believe many of those guilty will pay the price.
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The nonsensical ravings of a deranged mind are my thoughts :think:
Or is there something more sinister going on. :twisted:
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Millerman wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:34 pm The nonsensical ravings of a deranged mind are my thoughts :think:
Or is there something more sinister going on. :twisted:
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The thing about these conspiracy theorists is that no amount of evidence will change their minds. It only makes them double down and claim the conspiracy is even deeper. They are constantly asking you to prove a negative, which is usually impossible.
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By the way surely this thread is in the wrong forum. Shouldn't it be in General Chat?
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The survival rate has diminished rapidly the more this virus has mutated (currently around 30 mutations in this virus), only the currently new mutation is actually much more deadly to those younger and fitter!
As I have said before, go and look up science journals, on twitter there are virologist, epidemiologist, and infectious disease experts you can actually follow, instead of YouTube and conspiracists, they will educate you, not brainwash you.

This whole distrust of media all started in the USA with president trump, not being funny but the moment you say to distrust these people coming on the media, that are experts in their fields, you already look mad.
Research means lots of reading of genuine articles, science pages, and speaking to or following experts in their field! Go and educate yourself, its pathetic that you're seriously not willing to even go and educate yourself properly.
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forumfan wrote: A virus with a survival rate of around 99.7% I believe. For under 50’s , a bigger chance of getting run over and killed than dying from the virus. And yet we must shutdown everything. Destroy the economy, destroy jobs, education, all normal life. It really doesn’t take a genius to see that this does not add up.
Far more insightful people than me that can debate this, but I'll give it a go.

Of course it makes sense. Last March and April was seeing 20,000 people in hospital with it. This winter is seeing shy of 40,000 people in hospital with it. This is with lockdowns, social distances, masks since the summer etc.

There have been widespread studies to see how many people across a certain area had it at any one time. For example, if that number was often high then it was very widespread and theoretically, on some levels, as problematic as influenza minus an annual vaccine. It never was, with the exception of towns where the hospitals were truly overwhelmed. So evidently there is a problem that needed curtailing. Unless you believe hospitals should go to hell and over 70's should have their lives shortened.

How do you explain the increase in excess deaths in so many countries? Missed cancer ops and suicidal tendencies doesn't explain those numbers. Particularly those denser areas that were slow at getting to grips with it or advocated herd immunity or were too eager to focus on the short term economic impact. Why only mention the binary - deaths - why skip over the long term impact on health? Why not mention the potentially big issue of virus mutations, should it be allowed to run free. All you achieve is prolonging the agony and economic damage if immunity does not last.
forumfan wrote: I really came back online to say a huge thanks to Wraith for allowing freedom of speech. I take my hat off to him, proving to be a bigger and better man than both Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey. I don’t know Wraith but suspect he is a similar age to myself, born of an age when free speech was taken for granted.
There's a thin line between freedom of speech and emotionally charged verbiage aka 90% nonsense. We're all guilty of it, unless backed heavily by citations. Zuckerberg and Dorsey are protecting their financial interests because at the end of the day those social media platforms aren't charities. Covid is emotive. Big business and sponsors do not like heated divisiveness.
forumfan wrote: The virus itself will soon be gone. For those who understand all the faults with the PCR tests and the false positives, you will have seen that just 1 hour after Bidens Inaugeration the WHO announced the number of cycles of amplification was unreliable and advised dropping from 35 to 20 I believe.
With the enormous reduction in false positives this will bring about , plus the onset of spring, the virus will mysteriously disappear.
Some US States are already opening right up, restaurants, bars etc.
BUT , they have achieved their objective which is to bring about a Financial reset. The Western world is effectively bankrupt and the current system cannot continue. In history apparently it happens approximately every 50 years.
Why am I posting on this forum. Because it is affecting everyone’s lives and livelihoods. The ladies are particularly hard hit in that they are unable to work and earn a living. And peoples mental health is being destroyed. What they are doing is a Crime Against Humanity and I truly believe many of those guilty will pay the price.
This is just inconsistent rambling. You argue it exists and fewer people have had it. Then claim it will mysteriously die out in the spring, when last year proved it wasn't exactly seasonal. Though a boosted immune system and more people outdoors certainly helps. You throw in what seems to be that weird Democrat/establishment conspiracy theory (hard to tell). When if Trump had handled it like an adult he'd have likely been re-elected. You mention the US, which has a complex density due to the urban vs rural structure. It's also had a huge number of excess deaths and had some states seeing an unusual huge increase in pneumonia deaths last spring... Then you talk about a great financial reset when countries now have even more debt and others have monetized the situation via public sector contracts and taking advantage of volatile markets.

The ladies have been hit. But the lack of government assistance is a construct of said government.
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Sorry to say that I think some people should be a bit more open minded and a bit less contradictive of others views I didn’t believe in all of this crap I now know of people that have had this and come through it no I don’t know personally of anyone who has succumbed to it but I do believe that what we are being told via media and government are not for our benefit but there own if one thing not working has had for me is time on my hands to dig about and their are a lot of things that don’t add up or make logical sense
If people take the time to post something they believe strongly to be the hidden truths and feel the need to tell then others should treat that as as that’s there prerogative and if you have any ounce of doubt to the truth find out yourself
At the end of the day who really knows the truth behind all of this certainly not anybody on here people cannot be labelled an idiot or conspiracy theorist just because of what they believe if it’s not what you believe then you should keep your opinion of the others to yourself there is nothing worse than people who dis and label the others for the opposite sheeple view if this farce going on has taught me anything it is that there are judgemental people who don’t like the views of others they think are in the wrong
Wake up and realise nobody of power, enforcement , health stature will tell you the truth higher powers that govern will always silence those that know the truth so they keep silent
They say don’t judge a book by it’s cover it could look like a great read because it’s so expensively done but will end up full of shit
Some people say look for the facts and do your reading up depending what facts your looking at and where your reading will give you the opinion you have
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Forumfan put up his opinion, backed up with links to sources he read.
Exit link activity shows only 3 people actually checked his links, But the MSM fed lynch mob came out
with attacks and vitriol and no links to sources to back up their hate for alternative opinions.
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Some thoughts on Ivor Cummins and others of his ilk (not from the MSM)
https://fullfact.org/health/can-we-beli ... -sceptics/
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Wraith wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:36 pm .
Forumfan put up his opinion, backed up with links to sources he read.
Exit link activity shows only 3 people actually checked his links, But the MSM fed lynch mob came out
with attacks and vitriol and no links to sources to back up their hate for alternative opinions.
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As many as 3 checked the links
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I've seem these links, I still believe the scientist and drs over conspiracy and trying to make links that aren't there. Human behaviour suggests we look to blame things when we can't makes sense of something (scientist are still unravelling this novel virus), thing is, there isn't really a blame, this is a very very transmittance virus and is now effecting those that are younger and healthier.
Believe what you will, but some of us would much rather listen to science fact the fiction.
I personally don't want the new nor do I care to read it and haven't done for years, I tend to get my sources from science journals, ifl science and by following actual scientist on sm, the type with actual qualification that non of us on here have to be making assumptions on a virus.
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BMJ lashes out at 'state corruption' and 'suppression of science' in UK

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